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家园 有意思的分析,有意思的联想。

TikTok与中国足球的联想

家园 张一鸣签了卖身契就一文不值了

川普是奸商,最善于通过极限施压来获得最大利益。他的最大利益一是挣钱,二是挣选票。但如果二者相矛盾,则首先要保选票。现在抖音集结了一大票的年轻人选票,跟台湾大选一样,足够左右选情。而川普打击抖音最大的逻辑BUG是到底在和中共斗争,还是和全体中国人斗争?国内封杀某些美国数字产品是政府行为,川普不是在余教授建议下要区分中共和中国人吗?要封杀也应该是封杀政府媒体,封杀贪官的海外资产,可川普敢真正得罪中共吗?而张一鸣一不是中国官员,二不是中共党员,仅仅因为他的中国人什么就连一个公司都保不住,不是典型的种族歧视吗?不是希特勒对付犹太人的卑鄙手段吗?这个时候张一鸣就应该以受种族迫害的悲情,以种族歧视罪在美国状告川普,并召开新闻发布会揭露川普的罪恶,那么广大抖音用户谁会不支持他?谁会不反对川普?加上民主党的摇旗呐喊,必然加重川普的选情危机,而川普必然妥协,到时候公司也保住了,名誉也创下了,可谓名利双收。

相反,看不到自己受歧视,懦弱胆小,卖身投降,那么先例一开,海外中国人将人人自危,也被广大抖音用户看不起,更被其他种族看不起。那么卖身契一签,以后张就再也别想抬头了,就算有金山银山,也和叫花子没区别,而叫花子不到要饿死都不会卖儿卖女,张一鸣坐拥身价几百亿,就被逼迫把自己辛辛苦苦养大的儿女卖了,连叫花子都不如。

而如果敢于抗争,最坏情况是哪怕在美国抗争失败,一分钱不要了,其他市场的收益足够养活张,而且留下百世美名,何乐而不为?百年之后,是留一堆带不走的钞票好呢?还是象马丁路德金一样,留下抗争的美名好呢?

吾观川普此人,色厉而胆薄也。极限施压仅仅是虚张声势,只要跟黑命贵一样,以反种族歧视的大旗反对川普施压并购,给其选情造成压力,那么川普很快就会妥协。

家园 川建国关于TikTok和微信的最新行政命令。

若干小时前,

美国总统特朗普签署两项行政命令,禁止受美国司法管辖的任何人或企业与TikTok母公司字节跳动进行任何交易,同时禁止与微信母公司腾讯进行任何有关微信的交易。
BBC新闻

家园 45天后才生效

换句话说,目前还没有生效,等于逼TT赶快卖掉算了,我听说已经不是卖美国了,而是卖中国以外的全部,包括代码。

家园 完全可以不卖

贱卖不如不卖。可是张一鸣想通过贱卖给自己买一张良民证,这是问题所在。

家园 为什么字节跳动可以那么短的时间里开发发布和维护这么多应用

想想看。

45天后美国法人和自然人就不能买了。

关于TikTok

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that additional steps must be taken to deal with the national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and services supply chain declared in Executive Order 13873 of May 15, 2019 (Securing the Information and Communications Technology and Services Supply Chain). Specifically, the spread in the United States of mobile applications developed and owned by companies in the People’s Republic of China (China) continues to threaten the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. At this time, action must be taken to address the threat posed by one mobile application in particular, TikTok.

TikTok, a video-sharing mobile application owned by the Chinese company ByteDance Ltd., has reportedly been downloaded over 175 million times in the United States and over one billion times globally. TikTok automatically captures vast swaths of information from its users, including Internet and other network activity information such as location data and browsing and search histories. This data collection threatens to allow the Chinese Communist Party access to Americans’ personal and proprietary information — potentially allowing China to track the locations of Federal employees and contractors, build dossiers of personal information for blackmail, and conduct corporate espionage.

TikTok also reportedly censors content that the Chinese Communist Party deems politically sensitive, such as content concerning protests in Hong Kong and China’s treatment of Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities. This mobile application may also be used for disinformation campaigns that benefit the Chinese Communist Party, such as when TikTok videos spread debunked conspiracy theories about the origins of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus.

These risks are real. The Department of Homeland Security, Transportation Security Administration, and the United States Armed Forces have already banned the use of TikTok on Federal Government phones. The Government of India recently banned the use of TikTok and other Chinese mobile applications throughout the country; in a statement, India’s Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology asserted that they were “stealing and surreptitiously transmitting users’ data in an unauthorized manner to servers which have locations outside India.” American companies and organizations have begun banning TikTok on their devices. The United States must take aggressive action against the owners of TikTok to protect our national security.

Accordingly, I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with ByteDance Ltd. (a.k.a. Zìjié Tiàodòng), Beijing, China, or its subsidiaries, in which any such company has any interest, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.

(b) The prohibition in subsection (a) of this section applies except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before the date of this order.

(c) 45 days after the date of this order, the Secretary shall identify the transactions subject to subsection (a) of this section.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate the prohibition set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;

(b) the term “entity” means a government or instrumentality of such government, partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization, including an international organization; and

(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. The Secretary is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA as may be necessary to implement this order. The Secretary may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions within the Department of Commerce. All departments and agencies of the United States shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

关于T微信

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that additional steps must be taken to deal with the national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and services supply chain declared in Executive Order 13873 of May 15, 2019 (Securing the Information and Communications Technology and Services Supply Chain). As I explained in an Executive Order of August 6, 2020 (Addressing the Threat Posed by Tiktok, and Taking Additional Steps to Address the National Emergency With Respect to the Information and Communications Technology and Services Supply Chain), the spread in the United States of mobile applications developed and owned by companies in the People’s Republic of China (China) continues to threaten the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. To protect our Nation, I took action to address the threat posed by one mobile application, TikTok. Further action is needed to address a similar threat posed by another mobile application, WeChat.

WeChat, a messaging, social media, and electronic payment application owned by the Chinese company Tencent Holdings Ltd., reportedly has over one billion users worldwide, including users in the United States. Like TikTok, WeChat automatically captures vast swaths of information from its users. This data collection threatens to allow the Chinese Communist Party access to Americans’ personal and proprietary information. In addition, the application captures the personal and proprietary information of Chinese nationals visiting the United States, thereby allowing the Chinese Communist Party a mechanism for keeping tabs on Chinese citizens who may be enjoying the benefits of a free society for the first time in their lives. For example, in March 2019, a researcher reportedly discovered a Chinese database containing billions of WeChat messages sent from users in not only China but also the United States, Taiwan, South Korea, and Australia. WeChat, like TikTok, also reportedly censors content that the Chinese Communist Party deems politically sensitive and may also be used for disinformation campaigns that benefit the Chinese Communist Party. These risks have led other countries, including Australia and India, to begin restricting or banning the use of WeChat. The United States must take aggressive action against the owner of WeChat to protect our national security.

Accordingly, I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.

(b) The prohibition in subsection (a) of this section applies except to the extent provided by statutes, or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted before the date of this order.

(c) 45 days after the date of this order, the Secretary shall identify the transactions subject to subsection (a) of this section.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, causes a violation of, or attempts to violate the prohibition set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For those persons who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to section 1 of this order would render those measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13873, there need be no prior notice of an identification made pursuant to section 1(c) of this order.

Sec. 4. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;

(b) the term “entity” means a government or instrumentality of such government, partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization, including an international organization; and

(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 5. The Secretary is hereby authorized to take such actions, including adopting rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA as may be necessary to implement this order. The Secretary may, consistent with applicable law, redelegate any of these functions within the Department of Commerce. All departments and agencies of the United States shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order.

Sec. 6. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,

August 6, 2020.

家园 不懂软件工程,尤其是大型工程

不知道他们和普通的程序开发的根本差别所在。

家园 扶不起的张阿抖就算再多的人指点也没用

铁了心乐不思中了。

家园 这下考验马化腾的成色了,敢不敢反抗?

按这个规定,苹果是不能再有任何与腾讯的合作

一票公司可能会扑上来抢他地盘

家园 说的太对了,我看他就是想拿良民证
家园 给川建国总统令的小小解读和可能的场景。

Sec. 3.C. 本命令适用于在美国领土上的任何人。

Sec. 4

All departments and agencies of the United States shall take all appropriate measures within their authority to implement this order.

美国联邦政府所有部门和机构均应在其职权范围内采取一切适当措施执行该命令。

45天后陈王入境米国,米国海关官员说陈王把手机交出来,他要看看。官员看陈王手机上有个微信,告诉陈王在米国使用微信非法,陈王必须在手机上删除微信及其数据。陈王抗议,官员说两个选项:a. 删除微信及其数据,入境; b. 出门向后转,哪来回哪去,出境。

家园 你知道为啥内涵段子被关?而后来的事态有没有幕后推手?

ZYM从来都不是个纯粹生意人,他以前是完全不掩饰自己的政治倾向的。从他以前的微博可知,他明显属于精美派。

就现阶段而言,tiktok如日中天,正处于攻城略地的快速扩张期,说难做那是不可能的。对于这样的公司,一般来说投资人都没啥发言权,全都是财务投资,zym的投票权绝对是一言九鼎。所以他真的不是必须卖。

卖的唯一理由,就是他想做美国公司。就像你说的,他不愿投共,在中国永远没有安全感。

家园 国内IT界有个时髦名词叫中台。
家园 15年前后俺在国内,自然有渠道知道ZYM的一些后台背景

都是互联网圈内的。呵呵

家园 马化腾恨死张老板了哈哈
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