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家园 NYT一篇抽狗狗耳光的评论

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/16/opinion/16iht-edmorozov.html?ref=global

首先,作者认为狗狗撤出的理由非常无厘头:

The executives were nothing but furious — so furious that they awoke from their ethical coma, broke their earlier agreement with the Chinese government and stopped censoring search results for controversial political queries.

If Google’s explanations and actions seem to be lacking in logic and coherence, it’s because they are.

那么一定有什么别的原因在里头。

So if the sudden change of mind on the issue of censorship was not driven by cybersecurity, what could explain Google’s appetite for self-destruction?

The most plausible explanation seems to be that this is Google’s own, uber-geeky way of doing penance for the evil bargain that it struck with the Chinese government in 2005.

不做坏事的狗狗到底和邪恶的TG达成什么罪恶的交易呢?居然让狗狗一直良心不安,现在突然想赎罪?下面讨论。

In retrospect, it’s easy to see where Google’s purely utilitarian calculations went wrong. In addition to their “do no evil” motto, Googlers have always been guided by another, much less explicit philosophy: “computational arrogance.”

大家别听它说不做坏事,就以为它是小白兔。丫还有一个特点叫做“有算计的傲慢”。

接下来讨论狗狗那帮书呆子怎么算计TG的,当然TG大坏蛋也有不少工程师,人家也会算。

A company started by talented computer scientists and engineers, Google carefully applied its scientific, heavily quantitative methods to every single business decision and quandary, from book digitization to freedom of expression. This is how they came to reason that having more books online — even if distributed under an inferior copyright regime — is better than having none. Similarly, this is how they reasoned that having more information online in China — even if some of it is mediocre or censored — is better than none.

Reasoning by common sense or intuition is not really an option here: Googlers seem to check all hunches, no matter how good, by their cubicles, for spreadsheets never lie.

But China, too, has plenty of engineers — especially in the leadership of its Communist Party. The Chinese leaders may lag behind Google in matters of computer science, but they are surely ahead in the art of Machiavellian politics.

It wouldn’t be surprising if they followed a very similar thought process: Having mediocre information about human rights activists is better than no information. And who would be better suited to organize it all — to be hacked by China’s own hackers at some point in the future — than the overly ambitious Google engineers?

于是,双方互相算计,达成了协议。作者猜测,除了众所周知的网审之外,狗狗很可能给TG留了后门,方便TG偷窥。这才可以解释为啥这次狗狗一口咬定是TG在攻击ZD邮箱了---因为后门就是狗狗给开的呀!

Guided mostly by its spreadsheets — not historical analysis — Google took the bait and struck a deal with the Chinese government, a deal of which very little is known. We do know that Google agreed to censor certain search results. But was there also something else — perhaps some data-mining feature thrown in to placate the Chinese censors — that Google never told us about? The presence of such a backdoor to user data — which may have been abused by the third-parties — could explain Google's near certainty that Chinese authorities are behind the cyberattacks.

真相大白,狗狗现在装纯洁也没用了。

Still, the truth remains that Google failed to do due diligence on China and should bear full responsibility for it. It is unlikely to succeed in whitewashing its business blunders by trumpeting its newly acquired respect for human rights and freedom of expression.


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家园 沙发花
家园 什么“不做恶”呀

装什么装,看看这Googling Obama's China policy最后一段说的:

“They like to go around and sing the mantra, ‘Don’t be evil,’” said John Simpson, a consumer advocate with the nonprofit Consumer Watchdog. “But they almost always act in what they perceive to be Google’s interest — and that doesn’t necessarily coincide with that of any government.”

在非赢利的“消费者监督组织”工作的辛普森指出:“他们喜欢满世界地宣讲'不做恶'这个座右铭,但是,他们常常根据自己所认定的符合谷歌利益的原则行事,而这(谷歌的利益)并一定与任何政府的(利益)相吻合”。

本来觉得谷歌不错,它这一番矫情真让人倒胃口了。


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家园 不是说了么,给CIA后门叫遵守法律

给TG后门,就叫做恶

所以不能给;

在美国配合政府那叫尊重言论自由、捍卫价值观

在中国,配合政府那叫do evil

家园 确实是矫情

这次的事件看来要不了了之了,GOOGLE把中国政府大骂一通,把客户得罪干净,现在又说要重新开工。

不是说好不DO EVIL 的么!

家园 晕,刚刚参考消息那个回复错了

事实上我是想回复三楼2665557那个

家园 说句讨打的

这是活脱脱的参考消息口吻

家园 兄弟,众所周知,《参考消息》主版自己不写稿的
家园 不然也就不叫参考消息了

家园 不过这两年《参考消息》扩了若干副版

倒也发一些新华社自己的驻外记者写的稿件,但是这些稿件的分量和主版那些编译稿件不是一个量级,很多内容也是介绍驻在国风土人情社会面貌方面。

家园 有点向环球时报靠拢?

兄弟多年看不到参考,已然落伍了

家园 GOOGLE这次捞了不少政治资本

以侮辱中国人的形象为垫脚石。

到很多新闻技术网站逛了一下,很多对GOOGLE喝彩的声音

和对CHINA莫名其妙的发难和质疑,中国

人群体也似乎被当作间谍看待。看了真难受。这些舆论上的

攻势,类似于中国奥运火炬传播时美国主流媒体对藏独舆论的造势。

中国就这样莫明其妙的被侮辱了一顿,

请问GOOGLE有何拿得出来的证据可以说是中国政府

HACK它的?西方对中国的敌意和歪曲是骨子里,是绝对不会就事论事的。

作为中国人我坚决不用GOOGLE的搜索了。虽然我不用翻墙

也可以用,但坚决不再用了。我就不信我只用BING, YAHOO,

WIKIPEDIA就得不到足够的信息。 虽然中国政府

网络审查制度和管理能力是很低下,但这次GOOGLE的行为太欺负中国人了。

家园 Are they god?

他们怎么判断什么是EVIL,什么不是EVIL?

他们有上帝的权柄?

家园 当西方的人権しず時
家园 当西方的很多国家原先是海盗立国

現在是披着人権羊皮的強盗、黔驢技貧、只要中国自強不息、世界的未来是中国的、

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