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家园 【原创】G20关于俄罗斯的两部分,根本没有谴责一说。

【原创】G20关于俄罗斯的两部分,根本没有谴责一说。

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文件名:

G20 BALI LEADERS’ DECLARATION

Bali, Indonesia, 15-16 November 2022

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关于俄罗斯两部分,第3段和第8段.

第8段是俄土两国关于粮食运输的协议。

第3段就是所谓谴责,就是把联合国大会的决议重复一下,然后说这个决议里谴责,文字游戏而已。然后又明确说了,G20不是讨论安全问题的地方。

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3. This year, we have also witnessed the war in Ukraine further adversely impact the global

economy. There was a discussion on the issue. We reiterated our national positions as

expressed in other fora, including the UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly,

which, in Resolution No. ES-11/1 dated 2 March 2022, as adopted by majority vote (141 votes

for, 5 against, 35 abstentions, 12 absent) deplores in the strongest terms the aggression by

the Russian Federation against Ukraine and demands its complete and unconditional

withdrawal from the territory of Ukraine. Most members strongly condemned the war in

Ukraine and stressed it is causing immense human suffering and exacerbating existing

fragilities in the global economy - constraining growth, increasing inflation, disrupting supply

chains, heightening energy and food insecurity, and elevating financial stability risks. There

were other views and different assessments of the situation and sanctions. Recognizing that

the G20 is not the forum to resolve security issues, we acknowledge that security issues can

have significant consequences for the global economy.

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8. We welcome the Türkiye and UN-brokered two Istanbul Agreements signed on 22 July 2022

and consisting of the Initiative on the Safe Transportation of Grain and Foodstuffs from

Ukrainian Ports (Black Sea Grain Initiative) and the Memorandum of Understanding between

the Russian Federation and the Secretariat of the United Nations on Promoting Russian Food

Products and Fertilizers to the World Markets, on the unimpeded deliveries of grain,

foodstuffs, and fertilizers/inputs from Ukraine and the Russian Federation, to ease tension

and prevent global food insecurity and hunger in developing countries. We emphasize the

importance of their full, timely and continued implementation by all relevant stakeholders, as

well as the UN Secretary-General’s calls for continuation of these efforts by the Parties. In this

context we highlight other efforts that ensure the flow of agri-food goods such as the EU

Solidarity Lanes and the Russian donations of fertilizers facilitated by the World Food

Programme. Moreover, we take note of various initiatives addressing food insecurity such as

the Arab Coordination Group initiative.

通宝推:葡萄干,大胖子,
主题:4817570
家园 BBC是这么“阴间解读”的 -- 有补充

G20巴厘岛峰会宣言

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向以燕人兄为代表的“反英是工作”者们提出墙裂抗议,你们潜伏到今天,还驯服不了这么个县级媒体。

帖:4817630 复 4817570
作者 对本帖的 补充(1)
家园 加个支撑材料吧 -- 补充帖

G-20 leaders end summit condemning Russia despite divisions

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这里,我们要解决三个问题:

一,到底有没有这个Kirton先生?毕竟BBC是有前科的,它下面一个三产,伪造过一个叫Edwards的瑞士科学家。调查结论是有Kirton这么个人,我敢这么肯定,是因为他是多伦多大学的教授,跟我住一个村儿。

二,到底Kirton教授有没有上述BBC中文新闻稿里提及的公开表述?答案也是有的,请见以上的链接和截图,这是他类似的表达,与BBC的比照,观点连贯。当然,AP也就是个县级媒体。

三,为什么现在民科都敢这么狂妄了?这是16页的政治文件,你逼我去通读一遍我都会想方设法尿遁,因为我的英文水平还没到法学院三年级的程度。这个问题暂时我无力回答,创造条件,先创造条件,好吧?慢慢努力呗。

帖:4817778 4817630
家园 因为你不懂英文啊,所以被人牵着鼻子走,还兴高采烈。

因为你不懂英文啊,所以被人牵着鼻子走,还兴高采烈。

帖:4817717 复 4817630
家园 BBC请不起您这个级别的专家

所以只配出这种烂新闻,这你不能怪我。相比起来,我不得不更信BBC,怎么说人家也是个县广播站,您是个体户。

不过呢,照你这么一说,我也不敢那么肯定了:BBC打工人们的母语,还是不是英语?或者都是说阿拉伯语和印地语的新移民?

帖:4817733 复 4817717
家园 第五条废了

等了这么些天,北构和拜构看起来是不敢启用第五条对付乌克兰、也不敢对付俄罗斯了,第五条就是废纸。

帖:4817734 复 4817630
家园 "BBC打工人们的母语,还是不是英语"?还真不一定。

"BBC打工人们的母语,还是不是英语"?还真不一定。

再说了,这是中文版,就是给你这样的人看的,骗得就是你这样的人。

再那边给你解读,知道你不懂英文。

" 第一,你不懂英文,第二,你缺乏基本的国际政治的常识。"

https://www.ccthere.com/article/4817735

帖:4817737 复 4817733
家园 现在启动第五条,就是核战

拜登强行做了个搭桥手术,绕过去了。

则连斯基叫屈,说导弹绝对不是乌克兰打的。这就说明一切了。

第一次海湾战争初期,萨达姆故意用导弹攻击以色列,只要以色列怒而加入对伊拉克作战,很多支持美军的阿拉伯国家就尴尬了。为此美国硬摁住以色列,打死不能还手,你敢哼一声就算我这个大哥输。现在波兰就是以色列这个位置。

帖:4817738 复 4817734
家园 我真没想到井眼已经这么小了

论公信力,您一人横扫猎户星座。

这样总行了吧?在下告退。

帖:4817741 复 4817737
家园 G20声明关于俄罗斯部分略微详细的解读。

首先大家伙要有基本的国际政治的常识:

这种G20的联合声明一定是得到所有与会国的同意才能签发,所以不可能谴责俄罗斯,俄罗斯肯定不同意的。

更不要说什么"所以当G19发布谴责俄罗斯侵略乌克兰的联合声明时,中国签字了。"

俄罗斯不同意,中国不可能同意的。

造谣的人说是G19,说明这个造谣的人是有常识的,知道俄罗斯不会同意,但是造谣的人另一方面又要欺骗那些以为撇开俄罗斯19国就可以发联合声明,这是起码的国家政治的常识都没有了。

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下面,我略微详细的解读英文的声明,也讲一下BBC那个所谓"大多数成员强烈谴责乌克兰战争"是怎么来的,我们左派向来喜欢为人民服务的。

G20声明的英文文件名:

G20 BALI LEADERS’ DECLARATION

Bali, Indonesia, 15-16 November 2022

关于俄罗斯两部分,第3段和第8段.

第8段是俄土两国关于粮食运输的协议,这个完全中性。

第3段就是所谓谴责,我一句一句解释:

1,我们见证乌克兰战争影响了全球经济,有一些讨论。

2,我们重申了联合国决议"Resolution No. ES-11/1 dated 2 March 2022"的立场

3,这个决议痛惜了俄罗斯联邦对乌克兰的入侵,要求俄罗斯完全无条件的撤出乌克兰领土

4,(联合国大会决议涉及的)大部分成员强烈谴责乌克兰的战争,认为这个战争严重影响了国际经济,然后是罗列了一堆各种各样的影响。

5,但是对于情况和制裁,(有人)有不同的看法和评价。

6,但是我们也承认G20不是讨论安全问题的地方,我们承认安全问题会对全球经济造成巨大的影响。

那么所谓"大多数成员强烈谴责"就是第 4 部分:

"Most members strongly condemned the war in

Ukraine and stressed it is causing immense human suffering and exacerbating existing

fragilities in the global economy"

这个 Most members 这里是指联合国决议里涉及的绝大多数成员,并不是 G20 的绝大多数成员。

第 5 部分,

"There were other views and different assessments of the situation and sanctions.”

是完全中性的。

而且提到制裁"sanctions",所以这段话到这里都是在谈联合国大会决议, 因为 G20 没有制裁谁。

到第 6 部分 "Recognizing" 才是指 G20。

所以这段话到第 5 部分就画风一转,,(有人)有不同的看法,这就开始转向了。

到了第 6 部分,彻底和乌克兰战争划清界限了,G20 就不是讨论安全问题的地方,"G20 is not the forum to resolve security issues"。

而且,声明反复强调的是全球经济,至于乌克兰战争本身,G20不关心。

第 5 / 6 两部分,就是对 2 / 3 / 4 部分的否定,所以专门放在同一段。

希望出国的和没有出国的同志们都把英语学好,免得被人骗。

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3. This year, we have also witnessed the war in Ukraine further adversely impact the global

economy. There was a discussion on the issue. We reiterated our national positions as

expressed in other fora, including the UN Security Council and the UN General Assembly,

which, in Resolution No. ES-11/1 dated 2 March 2022, as adopted by majority vote (141 votes

for, 5 against, 35 abstentions, 12 absent) deplores in the strongest terms the aggression by

the Russian Federation against Ukraine and demands its complete and unconditional

withdrawal from the territory of Ukraine. Most members strongly condemned the war in

Ukraine and stressed it is causing immense human suffering and exacerbating existing

fragilities in the global economy - constraining growth, increasing inflation, disrupting supply

chains, heightening energy and food insecurity, and elevating financial stability risks. There

were other views and different assessments of the situation and sanctions. Recognizing that

the G20 is not the forum to resolve security issues, we acknowledge that security issues can

have significant consequences for the global economy.

----

8. We welcome the Türkiye and UN-brokered two Istanbul Agreements signed on 22 July 2022

and consisting of the Initiative on the Safe Transportation of Grain and Foodstuffs from

Ukrainian Ports (Black Sea Grain Initiative) and the Memorandum of Understanding between

the Russian Federation and the Secretariat of the United Nations on Promoting Russian Food

Products and Fertilizers to the World Markets, on the unimpeded deliveries of grain,

foodstuffs, and fertilizers/inputs from Ukraine and the Russian Federation, to ease tension

and prevent global food insecurity and hunger in developing countries. We emphasize the

importance of their full, timely and continued implementation by all relevant stakeholders, as

well as the UN Secretary-General’s calls for continuation of these efforts by the Parties. In this

context we highlight other efforts that ensure the flow of agri-food goods such as the EU

Solidarity Lanes and the Russian donations of fertilizers facilitated by the World Food

Programme. Moreover, we take note of various initiatives addressing food insecurity such as

the Arab Coordination Group initiative.

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通宝推:llama,大胖子,
帖:4817742 复 4817570
家园 那边给你详细解读了G20声明的俄罗斯部分,帮助你理解英文。

那边给你详细解读了G20声明的俄罗斯部分,帮助你理解英文。

"第一,你不懂英文,第二,你缺乏基本的国际政治的常识。"

https://www.ccthere.com/article/4817735

帖:4817744 复 4817741
家园 基本上,大家都把对美国的让步看作亲美

这也是有道理的,但是,还是得多看,多方面看。

帖:4817746 复 4817742
家园 你意思是你看不懂呗,呵呵。

你意思是你看不懂呗,呵呵。

帖:4817748 复 4817746
家园 我说的是人们现在认可亲美不是好事,所以俄罗斯或者

中国亲美是不好的事情,也就是不可靠。

或者另外一种情绪,对对方信任不够,担心对方亲美给自己造成重大损失。

有点像当年担心朝鲜投美,因此中国很多人骂朝鲜自行其是,爆炸原子弹。

怕失去,却不知所措吧。

帖:4817752 复 4817748
家园 政治观点不论,你的英语理解有问题

还没到解释这种政治文件的水平。其实也犯了很多英语非母语者常见的错误,缺乏对复杂和长句子的整体把握。

帖:4817769 复 4817570
见前补充 4817778
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