主题：【讨论】在全黑的屋子里，你清醒着，你的眼睛会怎么动？ -- jent

如果视网膜 here 是量子过程, or at least with some 量子成份, 那视网膜@this level至少不是经典物理(包括眼光学)only 可以描述解释的，then we would have some kind of 相位 (not in the sense of 经典物理) factor coming into our model, etc.

all these 视网膜量子过程, like brain 量子过程 are very important, but their research are kind of "bottle necked" by the current 量測手段, etc, so, your type of work/research, would be very helpful.

In addition to to the above, AI would benefit and likely move faster in a more software based model direction, as some kind of 腦外腦, to 補償 our own natural 腦;

our current 腦 "macro-non-qm"physics/math model, some kind of 标量波动方程 at best I guess, can't really deal with 视网膜量子过程/brain 量子过程 and the information generated, and those 量子information are treated as white noise/本低noise, very likely by our brain 标量波动方程 which is very hard to do any upgrade, if ever possible, short term;

in the process, we consume and waste a huge amount of energy as well, getting nothing back but entropy, and getting closer to the final exit..so we become very emotional, omg! in our 下意识, where we possibly have gauge theory model running, at least somewhere at humanity level, so humanity as a whole survives and progresses, moving forward.

so, handicapped by our classical 标量波动方程 in the brain, we struggle in a 量子社会 speaking more or less variouse 量子語言, mis communications, conflicts@various level, etc, and we become very emotional, dis-organized, we start looking around for help: we turn to tg kind of 社会腦 in china, and "god" 社会腦 in india, and white house, wall street, NY times, hollywood etc 社会腦 in US, and what they have been accomplishing while collecting huge tax from society?

their all kinds "壟斷寡斷" based 隐参数理论 models, as a human's some kind of social investment, profit return rates have been very low, compared to those physics/math sciences' contribution to our civilization.

http://www.ccthere.com/alist/3847181

so, perhaps, the next phase of humanity evolution is to introduce AI based and assisted 腦外腦 wireless global information network, not to replace the above mentioned 社会腦, but to compete with them and to innovate, and to cut the huge tax those 社会腦 collect from society, etc

so, we will have some kind of global information capitalism, where "波函數自组织" accross industries, national borders, kind of like 量子化学 type of structure, jumping above our current 牛頓經典力學 kind of social structure.

And in this information capitalism, "information" will be valued much more and "matter" 被輻射 and 折舊 by information constantly, with 可控相对论效应and/or量子效应 (x,t), etc.

never say never?

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• nua:"一个爱因斯坦和玻尔都有的成见"

What is your real problem ?

It might be a new phenomenon which has not been observed, or not been realized, or not been emphasized before; Also it might be a new explanation of a widely recognized phenomenon, but with new predictions, or with more beautiful theoretic framework, or with much less effort to understand.

It does not matter talking about the brain, or retina, with helps from quantum optics, or from classical optics. Similar to solve a linear equation, we may use a personal computer, a super-computer, or moreover, a brand new quantum computer system, to do it -- Just depends on how complex the problem is and how much resource we could spend.

Maybe I am wrong, but I really don't understand why you want to describe a so called "quantum brain"?

What is the gain from your description? Or what is the loss if we do not use your description?

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"當我們改變干涉儀兩臂的長度

時，兩道光束的光程差會因此產生差異，若光程差在同調長度之內，就可以量到干涉條紋，

若光程差相距過大，超過了同調長度，干涉現象就會消失，因為兩道光的相位關係在同調長

度之外會變得相當上確定。此處提到的量測結果是指合成的光向量場經過時間平均後，其強

度會趨近一定值，向量場長度變化的頻率約為一般光頻1014Hz左右，而人的眼睛是看上出它

的變化，於是我們在同調時間（或長度）外只會量到一個沒有明暗變化的定值"

my original question:

"人的眼睛 can only see

同調時間（或長度）外, right?"

answer: yes, I guess, without much further researching.

"此處提到的量測結果是指合成的光向量場經過時間平均後，其強

度會趨近一定值，向量場長度變化的頻率約為一般光頻1014Hz左右，而人的眼睛是看上出它

的變化，"

"可见光的频率在3.9X10^14~8.6X10^14Hz之间"

綠光频率: about 5.77 x 10^14 per second

so far, based on the above, 经典眼光学 still works, 经典物理(包括眼光学)可以描述解释, I think.

高色溫 out of 可见光频率 range will damage our 錐細胞, 柱狀細胞 with 光电效应. 游離輻射, etc, I guess.

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about"视网膜神经有雪崩式的放大反应所以可以探测到单光子2 三力思", I have not read much on the subject, and my comments are guess based.

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about 视网膜量子过程, or 量子成份

like 量子 human brain, they are still wildly disputed, and I am a "firm" beliver of "量子 human brain" ,but I also agree that 量子 human brain/视网膜 theories are very weak on 實驗

data if there is any data at all.

I have read very little about 视网膜量子过程, or 量子成份.

量子 human brain, I wrote a little under

http://www.ccthere.com/alist/3830274

• 《人工智能的未来》by the palm guy

眼动补偿在2013年后我们放弃了。

从根本上改以眼动不变（无关）的测量概念：一是技术本身的传承和发展，二是避开主流的技术选择，也就是专利壁垒，同时建立我们自己的专利壁垒。

不过之前的工作还是一直发展着，只不过不再应用在眼动这一个应用上了。

还是一机在手好。

毕竟专利壁垒的同义词就是路径依赖。