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家园 可能吗?

为什么有高考移民?为什么移民还不是因为教学质量不同竞争不一样.

我们单位一个同事在江苏上学去甘肃高考(父母在那里工作),在江苏估计本二,到甘肃以全省文科第三名的身份进的上海外国语

家园 教学质量不一样是事实,竞争不一样就不一定了

不能因为俺们落后就说俺们竞争少。高考移民要禁止,是因为不公平竞争,不是因为竞争少。相反,因为名额少,反而更残酷。到现在俺还记得当年某同学通过班主任向我捎话,说认识我报那校来招生的老师,让我改报别的。否则后果自负的说,呵呵。

BTW, 俺考的时候还是全国卷,考分可不比系里的江苏同修少。是不是现在差距越发的大了...

家园 不能说个体

要比的是平均水平,我没有说落后地区竞争小,只是觉得江苏是水涨船高的地方,作为总体中的个体在这种氛围下是很痛苦的事情

家园 在哪都是很痛苦的

如果非要挤高考这个独木桥。

家园 看看多少CEO 是college dropouts:-)

CEOs Without College Degrees

by Rebecca Reisner

Monday, June 1, 2009provided byBusinessWeek

The thousands of wait-listed would-be MBAs who may not get the chance to go to their dream B-school might want to draw inspiration from the following group of CEOs. Not only did they not get graduate degrees, they didn't get undergraduate degrees -- and some never even attended college.

Of course, not having a degree didn't stop them from being a big name on campus. You'll find Alfred Taubman's name at Brown, Harvard, the University of Michigan, and Lawrence Technological University; at least one building on each campus bears his name, although the retail magnate and philanthropist never finished college. Read on to learn who else made it into corporate top spots without the benefit of a bachelor's degree.

1. Dennis Albaugh

Chairman, Albaugh

Type of Business: Pesticides

Education: Associate's degree from Des Moines Area Community College

Fun fact: He has a collection of more than 100 classic Chevrolets

2. Paul Allen

Founder and chairman, Vulcan

Type of Business: Media, telecommunications

Education: Dropped out of Washington State College after two years

Fun fact: He persuaded Bill Gates to drop out of Harvard. They later founded Microsoft (MSFT) together.

3. Richard Branson

CEO, Virgin Group

Type of Business: Travel, radio, TV, music, venture capital

Education: No college degree

Fun fact: He became an entrepreneur at age 16 with the creation of Student magazine.

4. Maverick Carter

CEO, LRMR Innovative Marketing & Branding

Type of Business: Marketing

Education: 3.5 years of college at Western Michigan University and University of Akron combined

Quote: "Don't be afraid if you see an opportunity to go and give it shot. You can finish school later; it's always there."

5. John Paul DeJoria

CEO, John Paul Mitchell Systems

Type of Business: Hair-care products

Education: No college

Fun fact: He started out selling greeting cards at age 9.

6. Michael Dell

Founder, chairman, and CEO Dell (DELL)

Type of Business: Computers

Education: Attended University of Texas, Austin; did not finish.

Quote: "When I started our company, it was very much an idea outside of the conventional wisdom, and if there were people telling me that it wasn't going to work, I wasn't really listening to them."

7. Felix Dennis

Founder and chairman, Alpha Media Group, formerly Dennis Publishing

Type of Business: Publishing (Maxim, The Week)

Education: No college degree

Fun fact: He wrote a biography and published a magazine about Bruce Lee; sales surged when the martial arts star died suddenly in 1973.

8. Barry Diller

Chairman and CEO of IAC/InterActiveCorp (IACI)

Type of Business: Media

Education: Dropped out of UCLA after three weeks

Fun fact: He started his career working in the mail room of the William Morris Agency.

9. Bill Gates

Co-chair and Trustee, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; Chairman, Microsoft (MSFT)

Type of Business: Philanthropy. Software.

Education: Dropped out of Harvard

Fun fact: As a schoolboy, he created a program that allowed people to play tic-tac-toe on the computer.

10. Mukesh "Micky" Jagtiani

Chairman, Landmark International (Dubai)

Type of Business: Retailing

Education: No college degree

Fun fact: The billionaire mall developer flunked out of a London accounting school as a teenager and worked as a taxi driver before becoming an entrepreneur.

11. Dean Kamen

Founder and chairman, Segway

Type of Business: Motor vehicles

Education: Dropped out of Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Fun fact: Kamen founded FIRST, a robotics competition for high school students.

12. David Oreck

Founder, Oreck

Type of Business: Vacuum cleaners

Education: No college. At 17, enlisted in the army, and flew B-29 bombers during World War II

Quote: "Things are never as bad as they seem to the pessimist and never as good as they seem to the optimist."

13. Amancio Ortega Gaona

President, Inditex Group

Type of Business: Fashion retailing (Zara, Kiddy Class, others). (A Coruna, Spain)

Education: No college

Fun fact: Often cited as the richest man in Spain, he reportedly has never given any media interviews

14. Phillip Ruffin

Owner, Treasure Island

Type of Business: Casinos

Education: Attended Washburn University for three years and Wichita State University but never got his degree.

Quote: "You get the most experience from the business of life."

15. Alfred Taubman

Founder, Taubman Centers (TCO). Philanthropist

Type of Business: Shopping malls

Education: Attended the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor for three years but left to start a family and his career

Quote: "Become an expert in one fundamental area of your market or business. No one starts out as a generalist."

16. Ty Warner

Founder, Ty, Inc.

Type of Business: Toys (stuffed animals)

Education: Dropped out of college to pursue a career in acting. Later founded Ty Inc.

Fun fact: The plush animals his company manufactured retailed for only $5 in the 1990s, but Beanie Baby-mania drove prices up to $30 or more for the hard-to-get characters.

家园 对比顶尖名校,UCLA算好进的,标准也简单, UCLA和

和伯克利确实对华人不公平, 但作为华人, 如果身在加州, 连UCLA和伯克利都进不去,放到中国不知道能上什么学校.

抱怨的华人家长们,应该一边抱怨,一边向犯困兄您学习啊.

家园 一年能招8000的湖北高校就那几个吧

华中工学院,武汉大学,武汉理工大学,这三个吧,其他没哪个大学能招这么多人的了。

鄙人当年从江苏考3+2考华中工学院,9000学生其中有3000湖北人,江苏的录取分数线跟湖北当地人是差不多的。

你说的那个什么在湖北只能上二本的分数,这个不奇怪,比如江苏的南京大学每年在湖北的分数线也就是比一类底线高不了几分。这不能怪招生不公平什么的,只能说是地区差异。江苏人头发削尖了往南京大学东南大学里面挤,湖北人只要过一本线就能上。这是地区差异。

要说悲惨,湖南人跟河南人真的很惨,湖南跟河南的高校相对来说要少一些。

家园 太不公平了。相对来讲,还是中国公平。
家园 中国的高考已经非常公平了

中国现在的高考已经非常非常公平了,恐怕比美国的招生工作要公平的多。但是问题就在于,虽然很公平,在国内费了半天劲上个北大清华,将来说不定连伯克利都去不成。而且美国的教育质量毕竟还是高一些。

家园 college dropouts的原因很多

最强的人成功与否可能和college关系不大

但从统计上看

完成college学业的预期收入绝对比完不成college学业的高

家园 SAT考满分也不能进,倒是他们的可圈可点之处。

据俺所知,哈佛大约每年要把40%强的SAT满分者剔除出去(应该是老的SAT)。

他们强调“德智体全面发展”的录取关,倒是步了中国以前的标准后尘。

家园 ??

向俺学什么呢?

俺早就不考大学啦。

??
家园 上课犯睏兄,能说说

你女儿给斯坦福校长写信的两句话吗,不知道方不方便?

不好意思,我记住了这事. 向你学习,就是要让儿女进好学校的意思.

家园 呵呵,不好意思。

随便聊天,不要当作一回事啊。

是批评他们斯坦福校报的,难得校长有此胸怀。

女儿最后还是没有去斯坦福,她嫌西海岸的学校太laying back了。

去东海岸找罪受。呵呵。

家园 不错,挺优秀啊!
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