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                • 家园 的确。保罗是个非常执着的人,甚至可以说偏执

                  印象中是说保罗原来是极其反对耶稣,要和他的门人去辩论。在路上的时候,突然在幻觉中看到耶稣,于是彻底转变,从极端反对,变成了极端的追随。

                  也就是因为这种偏执,才能够在他的努力下把基督教进行传播。

                  • 家园 不是去辩论的途中,嘿嘿

                    保罗当年的角色是迫害基督教的积极分子

                    他当时是受了授权,去大马士革抓当地的基督教徒呢~~~~

                    奇妙的就在这里,这样一个人,什么样的力量改变了他呢?不仅观点在到达大马士革之前发生了180度的转变,还写下了那么多后来成为新约圣经的“学术论文”....

                    • 家园 是因为满脑子想说服别人,自我辩论的结果把自己给说翻了

                      他是个辩论高手。因为想要说服别人,显示自己有理,所以非常专注而且偏执的在自己的脑袋里设定一个反驳的对象,不断的假设对方的论点以便推翻,结果假设的那个,把真的这个,给说服了。

                  • 家园 我觉得关键在于保罗将基督教和希腊思想结合了

                    虽然这实际上是一个漫长的发展过程,但基督教自保罗以后,才能真正成为一种世界性的宗教,在此之前,实际上只是一种部落宗教了。

                    • 家园 呵呵,基督教的思想跟希腊的思想那时候可没有融合

                      参看圣经里面保罗写的《使徒行传》17章,已经写的很清楚了,保罗所代表的基督教思想,与希腊文化在当时完全是格格不入的。

                      这种格格不入,也使得基督教在后来的两百多年里受尽了苦。俺倒是觉得,这一时期(从耶稣上十字架到313年君士坦丁大帝颁布米兰喻令)的基督教,才是很好地体现了用爱战胜邪恶的真谛。愚以为,这也才是能彻底取得胜利的最好方法。后世的甘地主义则是对这一时期基督教抗争方式的最好模仿和继承。

                      • 家园 服兄说的对,保罗在雅典看见满城的偶像没少招急,在以弗所也是

                        一再强调“一主,一信,一洗,一神“(以弗所书3:5).

                      • 家园 看你怎么看待希腊精神了

                        基督教本身素有神秘主义和理性主义之争,也有关于律法之争,这些都可以在圣经里找到根源。

                        我个人觉得希腊文化的核心在其理性精神,至于当时之文化,试看中国明清时期的文化,与秦汉时期又有多少一致,但还是有某些核心的继承的。

                        圣经就这么一本,但教派千千万,个人有个人的理解吧。我自己更喜欢宗教中不那么理性的部分的。

    • 家园 沉默的永远是大多数,我很早就认为布什将获胜

      骂他的人多得是,可是闹的人总是动静很大,沉默的总是大多数。我始终报这样的观点。

    • 家园 还有一叹

      宗教因素全面介入政治领域,政教分离的原则慢慢被破坏。这次选举及可想而知的小布什下届任期内,这个趋势在加强而且还会加强下去。

      树立一个全球性的“邪教”角色,虽然能够团结自己一方,却从长远处把美国推进到以色列的角色中去。

      • 家园 驴仙多虑了,更向右偏倒可能很大。

        这次小布连任没有共和党同时操纵参众院重要。以后共和党可以在政策上畅通无阻了。

        至於宗教,过火的话共和党恐怕没有好果子吃,不要忘了他们也只有四年的机会。过於激进的思想在美国是没有市场的,这次竞选也证明了这一点。印象中比较激进的共和党候选人近年只有Pat Buchanun,他的威望当时是不错的,但连共和党的竞选都赢不了。

    • 家园 做好准备吧

      投票前一个星期,我回校跟找导师见了一面。老先生正在办公室里写论文,拿出一分触目惊心的统计图表来给我看:过去二十年来,只有TOP5的美国白人男性的收入是增加的,其它都是下降的(更遑论其它族群了)。然后讲起来选举,我说看来布什赢定了,你是怎么看的?他说是的,美国的民主正受到越来越多的限制,我的许多朋友准备移民加拿大了。(这两天看到新闻,说是美国人移民加拿大的兴趣大增)

      导师问我,你是如何觉得布什会赢的?我说我对美国的政治实在只知道皮毛,不过看完民主党提名大会就觉得克里会输。为什么?看看克里夫人的演讲吧,一出来就大谈自己,千呼万唤才提到丈夫的名字,即使在美国那也很忌讳。那一口口音实在让我这个中国人吃力。我就凭这。辩论我看了,凭心而论,克里略强。而且我偏向于克里赢,总是为他高兴。不过,我最终还是希望布什赢。为什么?因为我hate美国,所以希望美国有一个傻瓜总统。

      就跟台湾选举一样,你希望什么,就得不到什么。中国的崛起之路实在艰辛。做好准备吧,放弃一切幻想。

    • 家园 薯仔政府的最后一个明白人鲍卿,据传也会被炒鱿鱼

      Card Remains Bush's Chief, W.House Changes to Come

      Mon Nov 8, 2004 01:24 PM ET

      By Adam Entous

      WASHINGTON (Reuters) - At the urging of President Bush, White House chief of staff Andrew Card will remain in the job and is expected to play a key role in shaping Bush's Cabinet for a second term, the White House said on Monday.

      Bush has told aides he wants a "smooth" transition and officials said that they expected any major personnel changes would be made gradually, ensuring a measure of stability as Bush heads into second and final term.

      While Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, two leading administration faces in the Iraq war, had been widely expected to leave in Bush's second term, officials said they might stay in their posts at least temporarily.

      The death of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, lying critically ill in a French military hospital, could offer Powell the rare opportunity to jump-start peace talks with Israel and bolster his image after the Iraq war, one official said.

      In another key post, Justice Department sources have said privately for weeks that Attorney General John Ashcroft is not likely to continue in a second term. But officials say he may be having second thoughts after Tuesday's election victory.

      Bush spent the weekend at the Camp David presidential retreat considering possible Cabinet changes with Card and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice. Vice President Dick Cheney also took part in the discussions.

      CHANGES 'IN DUE COURSE'

      Bush's first major decision was to ask Card to remain chief of staff. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said "Andy Card was honored to accept" the offer.

      There had been speculation that Card would leave the post after Bush's re-election victory. White House budget chief Josh Bolten and Commerce Secretary Don Evans, Bush's best friend, were seen as possible successors.

      McClellan said other personnel "announcements will be made in due course." Officials overseeing the process have been "tasked with making sure that we do this in a way that is smooth as we enter a second term," McClellan added.

      "It's been a natural time for when you look at ways to build your team for the second term and that's what we're in the process of doing," McClellan said.

      Over the weekend, officials announced that Robert Blackwill, the administration's lead official on Iraq policy, would leave, taking him out of the running as a possible successor to Rice.

      That could clear the way for Rice's low-key deputy, Stephen Hadley, to take over as national security adviser if Rice decides to move to Defense or State, or return to California.

      In addition to existing Cabinet positions, officials said the White House is looking at possible candidates for a new role as national intelligence director. Congress has yet to approve the new intelligence position, proposed by the commission that investigated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

      © Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.

    • 家园 Try this, IQ and election

      点看全图

      外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改

      • 家园 我觉得这个是谣言

        学过统计的弟兄们应该知道,在IQ这事儿上,分布如果差出了5%,就已经是大得不得了的事儿了,有足够的理由可以进行种族歧视、地域歧视。

        这个调查表如果真实的话,恐怕也是有选择的采样、采样数受到限制~~~~~

        日本这边每年有一次电视上的IQ全国测试,参加者可以通过网络或手机实时参加,今年的参加者为50万人左右,结果是最高的地区109,最低的(冲绳)103~~~~

        男女比例也是107:104,可以反映出采样数够多的情况下,根本不可能有那么大的地域差异的~~~

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