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            • 家园 没有那么夸张吧

              柯达的在画质上一向口碑不太好,所以也没有留意,看图片确实体积小巧。TX1我同样没有太留意,因为这个机器的卖点似乎在于创新性的把camcorder和相机的功能结合在一起,作为第一代这类产品往往不太成熟。而且我在看测评的时候也不够严肃,呵呵,总是在了解参数和功能以后直接跳到“结论”部分去。在结论部分,dpreview如是说

              After using the TX1 daily for a few weeks I did get more used to it, but still found myself searching for the shutter release every time I went to take a shot. I dreaded my wife handing the camera to someone and saying 'hey take a picture of us together' as it inevitably ended up with us standing with slowly-drooping fixed smiles as we waited for them to work out how to actually take a picture.

              And yet I did grow to like the TX1 - or least the idea behind it. It's quite an achievement to squeeze so much functionality into something genuinely pocketable, and it is a lovely 'thing'; well made, fast and surprisingly capable. I loved the fact that I could switch so seamlessly from shooting stills to capturing high quality movie clips (putting aside the 'is it really 'HD' or not' argument; VGA is plenty big enough for me), I liked the overall responsiveness and I liked the fact that I could hang it off my wrist all day without getting arm ache.

              But ultimately I personally couldn't get on with the vertical design and idiosyncratic handling, I missed shots because by the time I'd turned it on, flipped the screen out and positioned my fingers correctly the moment was lost. But I guess the real killer for me is that I want a camera to be a camera first and a camcorder second, and anything that makes shooting in vertical (portrait) orientation so damned awkward is never going to find a permanent home chez moi.

              As a walk around camera with better-than-average movie capabilities and a big zoom the TX1 has a lot to recommend it, and it's important to stress that handling is to a fairly large extent a personal thing, so I wouldn't write it off completely. Just don't buy it thinking it's a replacement for a 'proper' HD camcorder and be aware that the ergonomics are, well, unusual.

              I'd really, really recommend going to a store and trying it for yourself before committing; this is a cool, fun gadget with surprisingly good image quality, but for me it's not a camera I found easy to live with - especially not at the best part of $500. I'd personally forget the movie stuff, save my self $150 and go for a Panasonic TZ3, which might not be as cute but has a more useful zoom range and handles like a proper camera. There is undoubtedly a market for this kind of product, but I think Canon needs to go back to the drawing board before it launches the TX2.

              所以我就把TZ3排在TX1之前了。而且似乎测评的作者对TX1的人机工程有点怨言,使用上不太顺手的样子。

              其实我现在最感兴趣的是即将推出的SX100,加拿大的一些店已经开始接受预定,价格399 CND,比TZ3便宜(一般 449-499 CND)。光看参数,这个SX100比TZ3强,特别是手动功能丰富。个头略大一些。没注意有没有28mm的广角。老兄觉得这个机器咋样?

              • 家园 PP质量还是很重要的

                我觉得相机最重要的参数始终应该是PP的质量,并以此为基准来衡量性价比.口袋机的话,再加上体积.所以一直很看好TX1,这个是真正可以长期揣口袋的机器,除了他的价格实在crazy.体积是1.14X2.36X3.5,tz3是1.47X2.37X4.2,大了55%.sx100的体积更大了点.功能上讲,DC的手动功能,我觉得要么一点都不要,要有就要尽可能足,我以前的机器是C记的2100,除了P档(DC因为基本不能用光圈控制景深,也不需要收缩光圈提高画质,A档和DSLR的A档功能不能比,还不如P档实用,S档更不实用,因为DC的最高快门速度普遍太慢),只用过M档.没有真正的M档的话,其他功能都是花架子.

                • 家园 C也有2100啊,我有个O的2100uz,呵呵。为2100干杯。
                  • 家园 呀,不好意思,笔误笔误,干杯干杯!

                    俺的正是2100uz.如果你喜欢它的话,S5你应该感到很亲切啊?S3/S5的镜头实际上就是2100uz镜头的下一代,加了UD后,紫边问题改善了不少.当年差点上了S3,不过后来咬牙上了30D,就只关心口袋10X机了.

                    • 家园 哈哈,原来如此。

                      偶的2100uz确实是个好机器,只是由于EVF在晚上几乎没法用,才跳了单反的坑,不过还是上了O记的E300,一来没有镜头负担,二来便宜呀,万一入错了门,叛变也容易,万一入对了自然更好。毕竟俺没啥追求,净图便宜了。

                      当年也对采用同样镜头的90 IS PRO流过口水。后来的S1 IS还忽悠哥们儿买过。现如今大变焦防抖的机子一大堆了,选择反而困难了。呵呵。S5拿在手里确实感觉不错,但是LD要求必须个头小,不然就不是口袋机了呀。所以就围着TZ3考虑了,不过一直没亲手试过。

    • 家园 S5应该更强点吧

      看过TZ3对比canon TX1,只比PP是TX1完胜,那么S5IS只会更好.富士的不太了解,不过10X的机器,没有个好的防抖,拍片的限制太多了,这个技术,我还是更相信CN的强点.

      • 家园 这几个都有防抖,比较难以取舍

        原先TZ1似乎比S3IS好一些,不知道TZ3和S5IS相比如何。看日本网站上的销售量,TZ3一个星期前排13,S5IS排14,相差仿佛。

        不过外形上TZ3实在太丑了:)

    • 家园 为什么一定要10x的机器

      如果说为了观察鸟类和野生动物,而又嫌C家大炮沉的话,不如买个DV更适合,还是动态的。

    • 家园 S5 IS或富士的s9600
      • 家园 大家还是比较信赖专业厂家亚:)

        我也比较信赖

        • 家园 好像富士的成像好一点

          但用的xD卡比较贵

          • 家园 原来用过尼康也用过富士

            不算俺爹妈家,俺自己赚钱买的的第一个数码相机就是尼康,第二个是富士。不过当然都是家用数码:)

            感觉富士确实鲜艳一些。xD卡也不是问题,还有库存:)这次本来想改投佳能家。但是看起来小日本对松下TZ3还是颇有好评的,可能还是打算入松下了

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